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		<title>By: repgrind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[repgrind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good lord, you even have the funny letters in your name on here. hehe. It forces me to directly target you if I want to /bonk you, because I  can&#039;t ever remember the darn alt code.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord, you even have the funny letters in your name on here. hehe. It forces me to directly target you if I want to /bonk you, because I  can&#8217;t ever remember the darn alt code.</p>
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		<title>By: Cäel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cäel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hehe, no worries.  I&#039;m still a little jealous you got Throne of the Four Winds&#039; first fight down.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe, no worries.  I&#8217;m still a little jealous you got Throne of the Four Winds&#8217; first fight down.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Analogue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Analogue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys got maloriak down first too so you guys aren&#039;t lagging at all! didn&#039;t mean to imply you were either!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys got maloriak down first too so you guys aren&#8217;t lagging at all! didn&#8217;t mean to imply you were either!</p>
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		<title>By: Cäel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cäel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey now, that&#039;s not true, we got Magmaw before you guys did, although you did beat us on Omnitron.  Taking forever to get our group together, and still haven&#039;t had a 2 day week from the whole group, lol.  grrrr.  It is nice that we get to push each other like this though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey now, that&#8217;s not true, we got Magmaw before you guys did, although you did beat us on Omnitron.  Taking forever to get our group together, and still haven&#8217;t had a 2 day week from the whole group, lol.  grrrr.  It is nice that we get to push each other like this though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 13:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We don&#039;t have a clear plan, but so far (after the first sucky weeks) we&#039;ve been staying in the same place. For example, this reset was:
Friday: kill Magmaw, Omnitron, Maloriak, work on Chimaeron
Monday: kill Chimaeron and Atramedes (first kills, woop!)
Tuesday: kill Halfus and Valiona and start working on Conclave.
(Of course, the European realms went down right after Halfus so we didn&#039;t have a chance to finish that.)

I think we&#039;ll keep doing this - clear farm bosses and progress on whatever&#039;s left before the end boss. We&#039;ll probably focus on Bastion now to get to Cho&#039;gall, then decide who to try first, Cho&#039;gall or Nefarian.

Also, on Chimaeron (feel free to ignore me, but I&#039;m giddy since we finally killed him and found a strat that worked): if you have people (even DPS) *not* healing on Feud, tell them to. We failed miserably on the first night (always dying on the first Feud) and killed him within 2 hours on the second. We timed our big cooldowns (priest&#039;s hymn on first Feud, my Tranq on the second, moonkin&#039;s Tranq on the third), the enh shammy used Healing Rain and Chain Heal, everyone used their self-healing or bandages. I tried out a spec with 3/3 Nature&#039;s Bounty (and no Furor), and despite the mana issues those fast Nourishes were amazing. It felt so, so much better than before. Good luck!

(Oh, and after Chimaeron, Atramedes is such a breeze to heal! I got so relaxed I kept forgetting to run out of the sounds waves.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t have a clear plan, but so far (after the first sucky weeks) we&#8217;ve been staying in the same place. For example, this reset was:<br />
Friday: kill Magmaw, Omnitron, Maloriak, work on Chimaeron<br />
Monday: kill Chimaeron and Atramedes (first kills, woop!)<br />
Tuesday: kill Halfus and Valiona and start working on Conclave.<br />
(Of course, the European realms went down right after Halfus so we didn&#8217;t have a chance to finish that.)</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ll keep doing this &#8211; clear farm bosses and progress on whatever&#8217;s left before the end boss. We&#8217;ll probably focus on Bastion now to get to Cho&#8217;gall, then decide who to try first, Cho&#8217;gall or Nefarian.</p>
<p>Also, on Chimaeron (feel free to ignore me, but I&#8217;m giddy since we finally killed him and found a strat that worked): if you have people (even DPS) *not* healing on Feud, tell them to. We failed miserably on the first night (always dying on the first Feud) and killed him within 2 hours on the second. We timed our big cooldowns (priest&#8217;s hymn on first Feud, my Tranq on the second, moonkin&#8217;s Tranq on the third), the enh shammy used Healing Rain and Chain Heal, everyone used their self-healing or bandages. I tried out a spec with 3/3 Nature&#8217;s Bounty (and no Furor), and despite the mana issues those fast Nourishes were amazing. It felt so, so much better than before. Good luck!</p>
<p>(Oh, and after Chimaeron, Atramedes is such a breeze to heal! I got so relaxed I kept forgetting to run out of the sounds waves.)</p>
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		<title>By: ReversionLFM</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I agree. One alternative would be to down all the farm bosses one night and then spend 4 hours on progression.... ug!
I would much rather do something like 2 hours each time on farm and 2 on progression. Breaks things up and lessens burnout.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I agree. One alternative would be to down all the farm bosses one night and then spend 4 hours on progression&#8230;. ug!<br />
I would much rather do something like 2 hours each time on farm and 2 on progression. Breaks things up and lessens burnout.</p>
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		<title>By: repgrind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[repgrind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wouldn&#039;t change what we&#039;ve been doing. I like being able to say at the end of a raid night &quot;well, we killed two bosses we have on farm and made good progress on a new fight ... tomorrow we&#039;ll go kill the other bosses we have on farm and hopefully this one too.&quot; A night with no kills is no fun. Having them spread over the two nights makes it a lot more enjoyable. 

Also, sometime when we&#039;re feeling frustrated and discouraged, we should give Al&#039;Akir a go just for kicks. &#039;Flame walls&#039; plus wind blast should totally be good for some laughs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t change what we&#8217;ve been doing. I like being able to say at the end of a raid night &#8220;well, we killed two bosses we have on farm and made good progress on a new fight &#8230; tomorrow we&#8217;ll go kill the other bosses we have on farm and hopefully this one too.&#8221; A night with no kills is no fun. Having them spread over the two nights makes it a lot more enjoyable. </p>
<p>Also, sometime when we&#8217;re feeling frustrated and discouraged, we should give Al&#8217;Akir a go just for kicks. &#8216;Flame walls&#8217; plus wind blast should totally be good for some laughs.</p>
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		<title>By: Analogue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Analogue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks a lot for that comment. That&#039;s very helpful, actually - a good way of breaking it down. We&#039;ve got similar goals, well not as lofty; Reversion and I want to see raid content while it&#039;s still relevant, this expansion. Maybe not down everything on heroic but we&#039;d like to kill Chogall before 4.1. It&#039;s not that big a goal, maybe, but it&#039;s do-able and still requires work and dedication.

We are really good about changing instances fast - it rarely takes more than 5 minutes to get from Bastion to Blackwing, or vice versa. So maybe we won&#039;t be as wedded to one raid per raid night.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for that comment. That&#8217;s very helpful, actually &#8211; a good way of breaking it down. We&#8217;ve got similar goals, well not as lofty; Reversion and I want to see raid content while it&#8217;s still relevant, this expansion. Maybe not down everything on heroic but we&#8217;d like to kill Chogall before 4.1. It&#8217;s not that big a goal, maybe, but it&#8217;s do-able and still requires work and dedication.</p>
<p>We are really good about changing instances fast &#8211; it rarely takes more than 5 minutes to get from Bastion to Blackwing, or vice versa. So maybe we won&#8217;t be as wedded to one raid per raid night.</p>
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		<title>By: adgamorix</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before you spend time trying to figure out where you should spend your time - take a few minutes to figure out what your goals are as a raid group.

We all know that it&#039;s &quot;possible&quot; to take down the end game bosses without the best gear, but then we should also know that we&#039;re not Vodka/Paragon/etc.  So, typically every piece of gear we can get our hands on is worth it.  

Our goal is to (hopefully) kill Sinestra while she&#039;s relevent.  We raid 9 hours a week, so here&#039;s how we split our time.

W - 4/6 in BWD for trash epics (pays for our raiding) and the few upgrades we need off those bosses.  Shards also help, since we&#039;re getting a lot of BiS gear now that needs epic enchants.  After BWD it&#039;s over to BoT for 2 hours of H-Halfus.

Th - Start with Halfus for 1 hour, then clear BoT and Vortex for the shards.

Sat - H-Chim for 1 hour, then Nef (only 2 kills on him, neither one clean).

For you, I&#039;d suggest the schedule that our casual group runs.  They are laid back and about where you are with progression. 

1) Everything farm
2) Anything new

Killing bosses keeps morale up, gets upgrades into the group (especially if you don&#039;t have a set roster), and helps give the feeling that the train is moving.  Bashing your head until you hear a squishy sound is a recipie for disaster IMO.

Good luck with it!  I&#039;d personally try Atramedes, as the fisght is fairly straightforward, and I personally love the mechanics of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you spend time trying to figure out where you should spend your time &#8211; take a few minutes to figure out what your goals are as a raid group.</p>
<p>We all know that it&#8217;s &#8220;possible&#8221; to take down the end game bosses without the best gear, but then we should also know that we&#8217;re not Vodka/Paragon/etc.  So, typically every piece of gear we can get our hands on is worth it.  </p>
<p>Our goal is to (hopefully) kill Sinestra while she&#8217;s relevent.  We raid 9 hours a week, so here&#8217;s how we split our time.</p>
<p>W &#8211; 4/6 in BWD for trash epics (pays for our raiding) and the few upgrades we need off those bosses.  Shards also help, since we&#8217;re getting a lot of BiS gear now that needs epic enchants.  After BWD it&#8217;s over to BoT for 2 hours of H-Halfus.</p>
<p>Th &#8211; Start with Halfus for 1 hour, then clear BoT and Vortex for the shards.</p>
<p>Sat &#8211; H-Chim for 1 hour, then Nef (only 2 kills on him, neither one clean).</p>
<p>For you, I&#8217;d suggest the schedule that our casual group runs.  They are laid back and about where you are with progression. </p>
<p>1) Everything farm<br />
2) Anything new</p>
<p>Killing bosses keeps morale up, gets upgrades into the group (especially if you don&#8217;t have a set roster), and helps give the feeling that the train is moving.  Bashing your head until you hear a squishy sound is a recipie for disaster IMO.</p>
<p>Good luck with it!  I&#8217;d personally try Atramedes, as the fisght is fairly straightforward, and I personally love the mechanics of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Analogue</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Analogue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yup! Looking forward to that! I do think we&#039;d have cleared our farm bosses faster, and done a bit better on progression, if we&#039;d had the hunter instead of swapping in various other dps. Chimaeron - the one time I did really well with heals, I went OOM at 32% which means if we&#039;d had a bit more dps we&#039;d have been at the &quot;enrage&quot; and my mana wouldn&#039;t have mattered any more. Everyone needs to improve just a bit more - healers getting better at triage, tanks being more survivable, dps doing a little more - and we&#039;ll really start rocking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup! Looking forward to that! I do think we&#8217;d have cleared our farm bosses faster, and done a bit better on progression, if we&#8217;d had the hunter instead of swapping in various other dps. Chimaeron &#8211; the one time I did really well with heals, I went OOM at 32% which means if we&#8217;d had a bit more dps we&#8217;d have been at the &#8220;enrage&#8221; and my mana wouldn&#8217;t have mattered any more. Everyone needs to improve just a bit more &#8211; healers getting better at triage, tanks being more survivable, dps doing a little more &#8211; and we&#8217;ll really start rocking.</p>
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