Comments on: Shut Up and Follow The Tank

By: Angry

Angry — Sat, 20 Nov 2010 05:23:12 +0000

I love to read blogs/posts like this.

The hunter experience you just had is pretty much universal for straight dps types.

I have raided as a hunter through BC and Wrath. Frankly I got used to the grief until most of our guild dpsers went shaman, druid or paladin around Ulduar. I wondered why mages all of the sudden wanted to be Enhance/Resto Shaman…. Then I rolled a healer of each class… the experience was eye opening to say the least.

I can count on one hand the negative comments I have had as a healer. It’s literally less than 5. I used to get 5 verbal abuses PER INSTANCE when Wrath Heroics started. I assumed that this was irritation with new mechanics or what not.

But it’s really just one simple fact…

People are Jerks to DPS… BECAUSE THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT.

Queue up as DPS 20 min wait. Queue up as Tank insta-run. Tanks and Heals are more important and in greater demand for instances. Straight DPS are the underclass of WOW and that may always be the case. Easy solo, fun leveling but just another joe on raids.

I would have left at the Huntard comment myself…

Ya gotta have class pride for all the EJs out there right Ado?

By: gromitdaddy

gromitdaddy — Fri, 19 Nov 2010 20:13:34 +0000

My biggest problem comes while raiding with multiple tanks… Even with a clearly defined main tank, it seems that more often than not, the off tanks have the mobs we’re supposed to hit. Then i just get all cunfuzzled! But is it really that hard to follow a tank? Why does it always seem like the only ones hitting the skull are just me and a tank? Or on a los pull, why am i standing all by my lonesome around the corner while everyone else is right out in the open having all the fun? Why does it make me feel like i’m doing things all wrong?

By: ReversionLFM

ReversionLFM — Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:19:22 +0000

I had a similar experience with a tank not talking. I was healing a pally tank in a lowbie instance and she did not have a shield. I requested she get a shield several times but there was zero response until I let her die once. Then all of a sudden it was like her chat started working again. Letting someone die does not always solve the problem but it does wake them up and get their attention.

By: Galilahi

Galilahi — Fri, 19 Nov 2010 07:31:27 +0000

Some friends and I are dealing with end of expansion blues by leveling up some (gasp! Alliance!) lowbies (our mains are Horde) and three of us did Gnomeregan the other night with a pally tank who was skipping all the side tunnels which we wanted to grab (are we not there for xps?) for quests and loot. When we tried to talk to him and he kept going without saying anything, we watched him pull a group and die (the disc priest stopped healing and then the rogue and I, a hunter, finished off the rest after the pally died). He finally talked to us then and indicated that he was intending to do the quests/optional boss but as soon as he was rezzed, continued heading past the tunnel without going into it. So we went into the tunnel and did it without him. We were unable to vote kick him until close to the very end because he stayed in combat and once he realized we weren’t with him, kept himself alive. It was very frustrating to realize that our choices were to follow the idiot and deprive ourselves of loot, not follow the idiot while he killed stuff out of range from us and deprive ourselves of loot, or drop group and accept the debuff.

So even with three of you, you can still be dragged along by idiots. The best solution is to be the tank, unfortunately.

By: Analogue

Analogue — Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:19:25 +0000

Yeah… the whole “You CAN get there from here” thing seems to stump people.

By: spinks

spinks — Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:18:10 +0000

” I once had a tank go RIGHT in Nexus, can you believe it?”

Oh heck, I did this once and you would not believe the amount of bitching from the group telling me that I was doing it wrong

By: Roundup: Reactions And Thoughts On The Healer, Tanks, DPS In Groups Debate | MMO Melting Pot

Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:01:55 +0000

[...] Shut Up And Follow The Tank: Analogue over at Looking For More says that both healers and DPS should be happy to follow the tank blindly in an instance. Wait, before you get the pitchforks out, go read why. Her post is very grounded. It’s from her point of view of both a healer talking to DPSers and as her recent experience being a DPS in a group where things went a bit haywire (largely because of a nitwibbler of a tank). [...]

By: Analogue

Analogue — Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:47:25 +0000

Oh, yeah, the blog and the whole “how bad could this possibly get” thing. Unfortunately I didn’t win any of the drops and while I explained what I was doing, I think some of them just thought I was being part of the ninja-loot-thing.

By: Bristal

Bristal — Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:31:28 +0000

I’m sure you have to admit that one of the reasons you stayed is that you’re a blogger and drama makes in interesting post. My concern is that ever-increasing blog posts about jerky players creates yet more jerky players with knee-jerk responses to potentially jerky actions by others.

If I find a truly jerky player in a pug, I first give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe I misunderstood if at all possible. If it continues, I try to kick or otherwise call them out as gently as I can. Then drop group unless I’ve made an ally of another player like you did.

Having an ally against a jerky player is really the most fun you can have in a random dungeon IMO.

I loved that you needed on cloth to give to the healer.

By: gromitdaddy

gromitdaddy — Thu, 18 Nov 2010 16:48:27 +0000

I’m still tempted by the idea of a gnome priest…