Comments on: Dear Blizzard, Women Play These Games Too, You Know

By: Troutwort

Troutwort — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:39:27 +0000

Okay, that made me laugh. He he, though I’m not sure I’d refer to Jaina as Arthas’ ex. I really do think of her as her own entity and her role in peacemaking with Orcs rather than her times with Arthas, she was good to dump the bag of bones, I was like, “Good for you Jaina! You can do better!” Ha ha.

By: Analogue

Analogue — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:32:03 +0000

Blizzard does a really good job of making them memorable. I’m just not sure being memorable as “Arthas’s ex girlfriend” or “that undead bitch” is the most flattering description…

By: Troutwort

Troutwort — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:23:23 +0000

Oh shizzle, infatuated with an “e”? Terribad.

By: Troutwort

Troutwort — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:21:39 +0000

To be honest though, I always remember the female characters more than I remember the male ones. And I don’t even like boobies that much. I’m more enfatuated by women with power in the game as to me I’m like, “dude, she must be pretty serious to be in that position.” Men being in command is so bleh. I had no idea who the leader of the dwarves or humans was but I knew both Sylvanas and Tyrande (I didn’t play an undead either). I guess even if there are fewer women lore figures, I’m more likely to remember who they are and why they are important over another Captain McSquareface.

By: Analogue

Analogue — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:11:55 +0000

Well, they’re in lore but haven’t been very present in this expansion. Maiev is, again, a woman defined entirely by her relationship with a man – Illidan in this case – and really not a particularly positive character. She comes off a bit like a parody of a man-hating lesbian. Tyrande is…. basically nonexistant, again defined by her relationship with Illidan and Malfurion. I’ll withold judgment til Cataclysm as I think her part will be beefed up a bit.

By: Troutwort

Troutwort — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:09:09 +0000

Any thoughts on Maiev Shadowsong or Tyrande?

By: ReversionLFM

ReversionLFM — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:38:08 +0000

But even with twists it is still the same basic framework as Sylvanas. I do hope they do more with her though. Thanks for not doing spoilers. I have been waiting to finish the campain until Analogue catches up with me. (though the artbook has mostly spoiled it for me)

I hope they have a good enough setup to give the second part of SC2 an instesting campaign. This first one was so rich in characters and story. I am having a hard time imagining how they can make a Zerg campaign as interesting. I know they will do it pretty well, but all the nuance and richness of the character interaction in this one… well that will be hard to match unless there are a good number of humaniod personalities in the zerg campaign. Overlords clicking and growling at each other will just not be as fun.

By: What's my main Again?

What's my main Again? — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:28:37 +0000

True… but Kerrigan’s story makes a big twist! I assure you… finish the game and you will see what I mean

By: Analogue

Analogue — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:27:08 +0000

Reversion’s sister, who was one of the first women to pilot jets for the marines, might disagree with you there ;-p Not totally disagreeing, but the stereotypes are silly. The thing is, stereotypes exist because there is some truth to them, but not necessarily the whole truth.

I’ve played through SC1 and parts of Brood Wars so I do know Kerrigan’s story is complex but the basic story – converted into what she hates – making her a victim as much as a villain – is the same as Sylvanas and both are a bit weak for my taste.

By: What's my main Again?

What's my main Again? — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:16:53 +0000

I believe its too soon to judge Kerrigan. For one… most of her story is told in SC 1 and brood war. You haven’t played through sc2 yet… so I won’t spoil the ending… but lets just say the next expansion for sc2 is going to be very VERY interesting and will revolve around kerrigan. I would be highly surprised if you feel the same way about her after the zerg expansion is done.

Having read the Arthas book… I love sylvanas’ story… while Jaina I still find annoying and this is coming from an alliance player.

Most of the other women in wow fall into some pretty harsh stereotypes as well They are either the root of all evil (lady vash, queen azshara, BQL) or intend to be good but make really really stupid choices; garona assassinating king wyrnn, Tyrande letting illidan free, medivh’s mother by facing sargeras alone and getting corrupted.

As far as the actual units in SC2… well I can see why they wouldn’t want to make a female marine, or firebat, etc. It might be construed a little gender biased but no more than our armed forces IRL. Most women in the military are pilots or support personnel and I believe are flat out excluded from becoming marines (due to physical constraints more so than gender).