Comments on: Tanking 101: Intro to Raid Tanking

By: Jen

Jen — Tue, 25 May 2010 15:33:40 +0000

I’m raising a priest on a different realm than my mains… I’ll report back once she’s 80 and pugging with the worst of them

By: Analogue

Analogue — Tue, 25 May 2010 14:59:24 +0000

Exactly; this post was more or less aimed at those pugging raid tankers who see “LFM ICC10 need tank” and think oh hey, could that be me? If you’re in a guild, either you’re no longer clueless about tanking or someone will make you not clueless. Or you won’t be in the guild or tanking any more.

By: Jen

Jen — Tue, 25 May 2010 14:18:30 +0000

I think we’re talking about different things, then. It’s been ages since I pugged a raid, so I was refering strictly to guild runs… and guild runs (thank God) don’t have tanks like yours. I’m lucky enough to be in a guild with adults who won’t throw a hissy fit if you give them a helpful suggestion.

People in 5-mans are just… there. I stopped caring at some point, probably after I leveled my druid in Outland with me healing + 4 clueless DKs, neither of which could find their D&D.

By: ReversionLFM

ReversionLFM — Tue, 25 May 2010 13:11:39 +0000

Certainly there is no reason for abuse…
But in 5 mans I have frequently seen people cop an attitude or drop group when you do something like point out to the hunter that using volley on a single boss is a waste of time. Or asking the rogue why they have zero finishing moves on their recount. I have had people drop group before we even REALLY complained. Likely telling a newish tank ‘wow you are tough to heal’ *bam* dropped group.

And in pug raids I have seen such suck that I can’t agree with the ‘there is no reason to yell’. We were screaming (in text) for that one tank to stand with the MT on MG and he was oblivious.

If it is raiding you need to be able to admit you were wrong no matter how it was expressed. If you want that run to keep going. Later you can gquit.

My point is some people can’t take criticism no matter how you package it.

By: Jen

Jen — Tue, 25 May 2010 07:45:15 +0000

Reading blogs… I realize there are many people who would really benefit from these tips. Tanks who don’t know what ‘taunt at 3 stacks’ means or how to stack… ouch.

However, I disagree with the last bit: “If you can’t handle having someone tell you just how dumb you are then you should not raid.”

There is no reason a raid leader should yell and hurl abuse at people, no matter how much they suck. I left a guild because the RL did that (‘stay the fuck out of the fucking fire!’) and all the raid leaders I’ve had so far were polite. Firm, but polite, no yelling, no name calling. I will gladly admit I was wrong if it’s expressed in a calm manner. If it’s not… well, yep, I should not raid *with that guild*. There’s plenty of people out there who’ll treat me better, even when I fuck up.