Comments on: LF Tank ICC, Must Know What ‘Stack’ Means

By: =t=

=t= — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:09:30 +0000

I went and pugged my Marrowgar weekly on a newly minted DK. My main is warrior dps/tank, and I know the trade. I also play AH and getting a couple of 245 crafteds to start with was no problem, so I went with GS (Goatse Score) of 4500-4800 or so… iLvl 220 and some 42k HP.

I was surprised, for a pug it worked well. Marrowgar got owned, one-shot, and we went on. Three-shotted Lady only because we tried the quest and with 2 tanks, dudus can’t fail at rooting really. Ours did, even if the tree is forgivable. Aaaaaaand… we get to lootship… and fail. I nearly went into frothing rage when people wouldn’t wait for portalled party to go through fully (atack before, and you pull aggro) not to mention only ONE dps jumping. We got it on third, with just tanks and 1 healer standing, me (OT) and healer manning the cannons for the last seconds while adds raeped our lone MT on the board before despawning.

Sigh, pugging can be win sometimes, but it can be so frustrating. Never pug if you can guildrun things.

By: Analogue

Analogue — Sun, 16 May 2010 18:20:22 +0000

That – looking badass – is one of the things that keeps me coming back to pugging. Really, I have fun, even if it gets frustrating. I can’t commit to a real raiding schedule so pugs are my best option for seeing content.

We have done Marrowgar with only one tank up for five minutes – if it’s Reversion, we’ve even pulled off a kill.

By: Analogue

Analogue — Sun, 16 May 2010 18:18:20 +0000

Thanks – I mean it – those tips are helpful for me the next time I team up with a resto shaman. I have an ongoing project to get all four healing classes up to max level so I can learn things about how they heal. Until then, tips like yours will keep me going.

By: Railena

Railena — Sun, 16 May 2010 14:16:22 +0000

Your pug stories always make me laugh and thank the stars that I rarely have to do it anymore

My guilds first attempt on Saurfang had 4 blood beasts up and I had thought that wild enough…. blood power going from 5% to 95% in the span of 5 seconds lol.

Even within our guild runs we at times have confusion of where to stand. It took putting a green thong over my druids head for our dps to stack on during the Marrowgar fights. At least we never had to worry about mace twirling prot pally dps….

“A shaman and a druid just have trouble keeping up two tanks plus one or more marks during that fight.” – This I have to disagree with you on. My main healing partner is a resto shaman, and myself I am a resto druid. We two heal all of lower spire together week after week and really have never had any problems keeping our team alive. What we have found to work the best with Saurfang (and most of the other fights as well) is having the Shaman focus on the tanks – Spam Chain heals ftw, while I hot them then focus on the raid. Marks get my full focus and ripetides from the shaman as available. However, if beasts are not going down, there isn’t a healing team in the world that is going to be able to save your group.

By: mrfenris

mrfenris — Sun, 16 May 2010 14:13:26 +0000

I have no idea how you folks can pug ICC.

For me it is the equivalent of climbing of my kitchen counter naked, straddling my blender, and making manhood smoothies.

The mere thought of trying to get puggers to do the Blood Wing properly makes me shudder.

Meanwhile…

Isn’t it awesome as hell when someone screws the pooch and your left as the only player and your doing something that you shouldn’t be able to do?

IE single tank Marrowgar and live.

I mean yeah your group failed and it never should have happened, but damn you looked badass while doing it!

By: Analogue

Analogue — Sun, 16 May 2010 12:51:26 +0000

Yeah, marks over the tanks, instructions like “Go stand on the bear” or “go stand on the star” equally ignored.
The guy who messed up on Deathwhisper had previously said he “didn’t know how to change vent info” so he couldn’t join us in vent.

By: Andy

Andy — Sun, 16 May 2010 10:02:40 +0000

Wow, 5 blood beasts?

It baffles me how some people can really be quite so awful at … well, anything, to not know what “stand with the other tank” means. I presume both tanks had nice big raid markers over their heads?

To be (sort of) fair to DPS on Deathwhisper, it’s sometimes easy to miss even /rw messages when DBM is spamming the screen with so much info – I missed the RL’s HERO HERO HERO HERO pleas (I was on my shaman) completely. Mind you, it’s not like we were even close to the enrage timer. People DPSing mind-controlled players was a bigger issue -.-