Comments on: Go Ahead, Try To Kick Me

By: ReversionLFM

ReversionLFM — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:51:48 +0000

Also, you don’t have to chose between swipe and maul for multi target agro. Maul goes off on the next swing. So you write this macro and spam it. If you don’t pick a image it will defaut to the swipe picture. I have a whole bar set up where everything is macroed to also throw maul. This works great after about level 50 or so when rage starts to not be an issue.

/cast swipe
/cast maul

If rage is an issue macro this one:
/cast charge
/cast enrage
/cast barkskin

By: Hugmenot

Hugmenot — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:48:07 +0000

Thanks for the tip Calli !

By: ReversionLFM

ReversionLFM — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:47:33 +0000

Well sometimes you have to let on person die and sometimes you have t get half the party killed…
heh. Not really.

ok maybe sometimes.

By: ReversionLFM

ReversionLFM — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:46:35 +0000

Great advice. I figured that one out much much later (see tanking 101: hitting the wall). Getting the similar glyph on my warrior mush sooner (as well as macroing it up) made me a far more uber tank far sooner on my warrior than I ever was leveling my bear.

By: Calli

Calli — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:13:55 +0000

An excellent tip for nub Bear tanks at 15 is the Glyph of Maul, you need to be 15 to use your first Glyph but it allows your Maul to hit two targets instead of one, free threat at low levels is not to be sniffed at, and it’s WAY better two-target threat than Swipe.

By: Jen

Jen — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:00:10 +0000

As long as *they* don’t have a friend in the dungeon who can res…

By: Analogue

Analogue — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:30:03 +0000

It really helps when you take someone with you. You know you’ve got one vote on your side already, and especially when you’re the healer and tank pair you’ve got all the power.

Things will not get better unless we the players take a stand. It is a social issue and has social-pressure answers. I think we need to start a “one idiotic action, one warning, then kick” system. With no-heals for people you can’t kick and hope their repair bill helps.

By: Alas

Alas — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 20:14:50 +0000

I hope to see more tales of tanks refusing to taunt and healers refusing to heal idiots. It is pretty disheartening to read about this happening at higher levels and people insisting that they’ve never run into anyone who wouldn’t tank, heal or rez no matter what stupid stunt they pulled. My husband and I catch so much of it when leveling our low 20′s horde-side toons and our hope has been that by the time we reached 50-70′s we would see less and less dickish behavior. I think it will only happen with repeated refusals from tanks and healers to not stand for dps abuse, so keep fighting the good fight!

By: Analogue

Analogue — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:07:37 +0000

Agreed, this is awesome.

Blizz does need to let us kick more than one person per instance, and implement cross-server friends. That’ll fix a lot.

By: ReversionLFM

ReversionLFM — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:58:52 +0000

Nice summary of stuff. Those runs were a gold mine of blogging.
Nothing like having a weak/bad tank to ruin a whole run. A good tank can make up for a bad healer, somewhat, but there are few ways to save from a bad tank short of someone else tanking.

That run with your wife tanking is a great example of why knowledge of pulling and basic tanking can make up for lack in just about every area of tanking skill (not saying she is lacking there). If the tank is sane and the group is understanding and does their job that is all you need to make the run work. That could be a whole post.

I have done a lot of runs in low tanks in the last couple months but very rarely do I multi pull. I need to do a whole post on how to do multi pulls right, with a huge subsection explain when NOT to do it. I have found that it is hard, very hard, as a tank at low levels to do them. They tool bucket is just so tiny and everyone AOEs so much.

Another good post I might have to do is talking about confidence. Confidence is a huge asset to a tank… BUT over-confidence is a deadly sin for a tank. A very very deadly sin.

Another post topic your comment reminded me of is blame assignment. I have an idea percolating to do a blog post on how to figure out what went wrong after a wipe. I am not sure what I can say on the subject yet though… it is usually complicated. I do want to cover it sometime though.